2. How does it fit with Compass’ core beliefs of equality, solidarity, democracy, freedom, sustainability and well being?
National Insurance is in effect a regressive addition to income tax, which impacts most heavily on the lowest paid, adding to the poverty trap and increasing the equality gap between the haves and the have-nots.
3. How does it build the institutions of social democracy, like social groups and collective and cooperative forms of ownership and control?
Too many of the less-advantaged have no interest in our society and have given up on democracy and social institutions. We need to re-engage the poorest in democratic process, as they stand to gain most from it.
4. How much will it cost or raise and where will any cost come from?
The cost needs to be absorbed by the income tax system. For the majority of tax-payers, there would be no effective change in that the amount they currently pay in national insurance would be re-designated as income tax. For the highest payers there would be a proportionately small increase in tax. For the lowest tax payers - and those who currently pay no income tax - the change would be very significant.
5. Which groups in the electorate are likely to support or oppose this measure? Is there any polling evidence you have on this?
Support depends on how policies are portrayed - I have no evidence that the lowest-paid people could be persuaded to vote by a policy which would remove their requirement to pay, but if this didn’t persuade them then I suspect nothing would.
6. Is there a place or country where it’s worked? Please provide some information.
Is there a place or Country which has the same illogical system of “national insurance” payments as the UK?
7. What are the three main arguments in favour/against it?
1) It is wrong to tax people who cannot afford to pay
2) It is wrong to tax people on low incomes disproportionately more than people on higher incomes
3) It is wrong to allow people on very high incomes to pay no additional tax (ie “national insurance”) on a slice of their income above a certain level.
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I used to be against NI, both employees’ (because it has exactly the same effect as income tax and it is dishonest to call it by another name) and employers’ (a tax on jobs). However I have been persuaded that NICs could have a role in a new, socially just, tax system. The current system is not fit for purpose; it has no intellectual foundation. I am generally against hypothecation but believe that NICs could provide the correct base for the state pension. Private provision of pensions has proved to be a total disaster for the majority of people, founded as it is on the casino of the stock markets, and we desperately need a change here (it is a disgrace that top rate tax payers are further advantaged by the current system of pensions contributions). So I agree and disagree at the same.
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gerard collier
I disagree since NI is based on all income ,not taxable income, but I do think there should be no cap or upper level of income for NI to be levied on.
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Maxine Mathews
An excellent idea. The resulting tax shortfall could be made up by changing our income tax system to one that is progressive. It should also have negative potential and therefore be merged with the social security system.
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Thanks for posting this article. I’m decidedly frustrated with struggling to search out germane and intelligent commentary on this issue. Everybody nowadays goes to the very far extremes to either drive home their viewpoint that either: everyone else in the planet is wrong, or two that everyone but them does not really understand the situation. Many thanks for your concise, applicable insight.

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March 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I used to be against NI, both employees’ (because it has exactly the same effect as income tax and it is dishonest to call it by another name) and employers’ (a tax on jobs). However I have been persuaded that NICs could have a role in a new, socially just, tax system. The current system is not fit for purpose; it has no intellectual foundation. I am generally against hypothecation but believe that NICs could provide the correct base for the state pension. Private provision of pensions has proved to be a total disaster for the majority of people, founded as it is on the casino of the stock markets, and we desperately need a change here (it is a disgrace that top rate tax payers are further advantaged by the current system of pensions contributions). So I agree and disagree at the same.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I disagree since NI is based on all income ,not taxable income, but I do think there should be no cap or upper level of income for NI to be levied on.
May 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
An excellent idea. The resulting tax shortfall could be made up by changing our income tax system to one that is progressive. It should also have negative potential and therefore be merged with the social security system.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Thanks for posting this article. I’m decidedly frustrated with struggling to search out germane and intelligent commentary on this issue. Everybody nowadays goes to the very far extremes to either drive home their viewpoint that either: everyone else in the planet is wrong, or two that everyone but them does not really understand the situation. Many thanks for your concise, applicable insight.